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[AV] 試用 RealTraps 產品

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Re: [AV] 試用 RealTraps 產品

文章發表人 Eddie Ngan 發表於 2009-12-21, 21:41

Raymond Wan 寫:
orpheuslau 寫:
Raymond Wan 寫:
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thx your sharing...

Those real trap is working...however....not that effective as i perceive before... :a003:


:a005: :a005: :confused: :confused:

As I have emphasized before, they do not show significant improvements over my existing conditions are due to my room has already being treated.

If my room has not been treated before, I consider the RealTraps will show significant improvements.

Hence, please do not being mis-led by my findings on not "effective". Your assumption or interpretation are wrong.

You need to use them and verify them at your own home to give fair comments.

As I have also pointed out, they work perfectly at JB's home as he has not done any room treatment before.

The case in my home is totally different.

:049: :049: :049:


Oh yes yes raymond hing...no offense :inlove2:

looking forward to your A/B test result


:love_china: :love_china: :love_china:

技術討論是完全沒有問題,只是不想有不必要誤會產生

http://www.av100fun.com/viewtopic.php?f ... 5&start=28

所以早前亦特别指出當中要點,提醒大家,不要誤解在我家的效果

Raymond Wan 寫: :049: :049: :049:

請大家注意,並非 RealTraps 產品無用



:dont_agree: :dont_agree: :dont_agree:

一開始已指出,RealTraps 用在 JB 家中有明顯改善效果

且據 Eddie 兄的實際使用經驗,RealTraps 也有一定效能

:a012: :a012: :a012:

只是由於我家使用了效能甚高的 DAAD (Diffusion Absorption Acoustic Device) 調音柱,

把它們放在其中 3 隻低頻駐波最利害的地方,駐波已作部份處理,餘下的 26Hz 及 59Hz 故相對甚難攪!

:coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:

如大家的家中沒有作任何音頻處理,RealTraps 的效果相對會較明顯 (如 JB 兄的家便是如此)


題外話, 約一年前, 因家中有 booming,四出搜羅不同的調音物, 計有Real Traps, RPG, RDFS 等, 以我家中計, Real Traps是比其餘的有效, 不過對付低頻, 如走Bass Trap呢條路,我一向都信奉Size Does Matter. 無論用什麼物料,冇番咁上下size跟本起唔到什麼作用, 今次因運輸關係,只能借出2x Mondo Traps, 2x Mini Traps 及3Corner traps, 實際在我家是用上4 Mondo Traps, 2 Mini Traps 和6 Corner Traps.我冇Raymond兄咁有心機,用十分科學方法同客觀 data去測試 :great: , 我自己只求聽出ok便收貨(而且...大部分都係online 買, 只有如RDFS香港有代理...全部胆粗粗, 買左先算 :a003: )

幾年前, 同Beanbean 2 條on9 佬請教完Lofi,自制Bass Trap, 已得出Size Does Matter的conclusion, 所以唔好對現成產品有太多寄望, 要真係有明顯分別其物之體積就耍有番咁上下
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Re: [AV] 試用 RealTraps 產品

文章發表人 Raymond Wan 發表於 2009-12-21, 22:46

Eddie Ngan 寫:
Raymond Wan 寫:
orpheuslau 寫:
Raymond Wan 寫:
orpheuslau 寫:
thx your sharing...

Those real trap is working...however....not that effective as i perceive before... :a003:


:a005: :a005: :confused: :confused:

As I have emphasized before, they do not show significant improvements over my existing conditions are due to my room has already being treated.

If my room has not been treated before, I consider the RealTraps will show significant improvements.

Hence, please do not being mis-led by my findings on not "effective". Your assumption or interpretation are wrong.

You need to use them and verify them at your own home to give fair comments.

As I have also pointed out, they work perfectly at JB's home as he has not done any room treatment before.

The case in my home is totally different.

:049: :049: :049:


Oh yes yes raymond hing...no offense :inlove2:

looking forward to your A/B test result


:love_china: :love_china: :love_china:

技術討論是完全沒有問題,只是不想有不必要誤會產生

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=155185&start=28

所以早前亦特别指出當中要點,提醒大家,不要誤解在我家的效果

Raymond Wan 寫: :049: :049: :049:

請大家注意,並非 RealTraps 產品無用



:dont_agree: :dont_agree: :dont_agree:

一開始已指出,RealTraps 用在 JB 家中有明顯改善效果

且據 Eddie 兄的實際使用經驗,RealTraps 也有一定效能

:a012: :a012: :a012:

只是由於我家使用了效能甚高的 DAAD (Diffusion Absorption Acoustic Device) 調音柱,

把它們放在其中 3 隻低頻駐波最利害的地方,駐波已作部份處理,餘下的 26Hz 及 59Hz 故相對甚難攪!

:coldsweat2: :coldsweat2: :coldsweat2:

如大家的家中沒有作任何音頻處理,RealTraps 的效果相對會較明顯 (如 JB 兄的家便是如此)


題外話, 約一年前, 因家中有 booming,四出搜羅不同的調音物, 計有Real Traps, RPG, RDFS 等, 以我家中計, Real Traps是比其餘的有效, 不過對付低頻, 如走Bass Trap呢條路,我一向都信奉Size Does Matter. 無論用什麼物料,冇番咁上下size跟本起唔到什麼作用, 今次因運輸關係,只能借出2x Mondo Traps, 2x Mini Traps 及3Corner traps, 實際在我家是用上4 Mondo Traps, 2 Mini Traps 和6 Corner Traps.我冇Raymond兄咁有心機,用十分科學方法同客觀 data去測試 :great: , 我自己只求聽出ok便收貨(而且...大部分都係online 買, 只有如RDFS香港有代理...全部胆粗粗, 買左先算 :a003: )

幾年前, 同Beanbean 2 條on9 佬請教完Lofi,自制Bass Trap, 已得出Size Does Matter的conclusion, 所以唔好對現成產品有太多寄望, 要真係有明顯分別其物之體積就耍有番咁上下


:a012: :great: :great: :a012:

最初只是想向 Eddie 借入 RealTraps Tri-corners 作比較,因家中四個頂角還是有少許位可放得落 :a008: :a008:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=151639&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15

但收到 Tri-corners 後,發現要放在頂角,需鑽牆及加長彈弓付件才可固定,但並沒有向 Eddie 兄取彈弓付件 :eusa_wall: :eusa_wall:

故不可上牆頂角,測試只好放於地下牆角處及 Mondo Trap 的頂上, :selfpun: :selfpun:

可能正確放於頂角,會有效果!

:question2: :question2: :a013: :a013:

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:love_china: :love_china: :love_china:

在下周末聖誕節假期,可把所有 DAAD 取走,換上 RealTraps 作真正 A/B 比較

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Re: [AV] 試用 RealTraps 產品

文章發表人 Raymond Wan 發表於 2009-12-21, 22:53

:049: :049: :049:

可肯定的是 RealTraps Mondo 及 Mini Trap 均可放於第一反射點,及可改善 RT60 殘响

:a012: :a012: :great: :great:

由於有一定效能,故已決定買入 4 塊 Mini Trap / Bare Trap (2' x 4') 用作相關改善

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